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  Overlapping Generation/GB/Doug Sanderson

  by Simon Morley in

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  my apologies of this topic has been covered already - please redirect me if it has:.

  current belief is:.

  watchtower (study edition), april 15th, 2010 issue, pages 27-29:.

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  problemaddict 2

  This is the easiest way i have found to remember it, AND to blow it up simultaneously and accurately. I am not sure what Fred Franz has to do with this specifically so I would refrain from using names.

  If someone was old enough to partake in 1914, that is the first part of this generation. If someone in modern times was old enough to partake with people from the first group, they are an extension of that group (they overlap with it).

  The WT has said the end will come before all these ones pass away.

  So......one need simply find the youngest member of the anointed that was alive and partaking while someone who partook in 1914 was still alive (so not necessarily the youngest anointed person out there), and figure out how long they will probably live to get an expiration date on "this ole system of things".

  This is exactly what is taught by JW's currently without any hyperbole or stretching of imagination.

  Its like shooting fish in a barrel.
  
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  Music buffs.Here we go again. List you're all-time favorite Guitarists

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  hello ya'll.

  was just listening to great guitar music from some of my favorites.

  who are your all time favorites?

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  I know everyone here is only living in the past because none of these lists have Gary Clark Jr on them, and he is the best young guitarist in a generation.
  
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  "When you protect the institution over the individual, justice isn't possible"

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so says kirsten gillibrad the senator from new york.

  it was regarding rape at college campus, and how it tends to be handled "internally" and "with bias".. i watched this unfold on an episode of vice on hbo from this weekend.

  the similarities were striking.

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  So says Kirsten Gillibrad the senator from New York. It was regarding rape at college campus, and how it tends to be handled "internally" and "with bias".

  I watched this unfold on an episode of VICE on HBO from this weekend. The similarities were striking. Colleges attempt to keep these things off the record in order not to harm their public image. As a result a sort of culture of blame and looking the other way develops until the few have the courage to speak out and become many.

  Its an interesting episode I would highly recommend.

  One of the main differences which speaks terribly to our former faith, is that on campus there have been proven hoaxes, and the defense of consent can and is used. However, with molestation there is no consent defense. Nor can confession be overlooked.

  The senator used the term "the culture of benign neglect". With jehovahs Witnesses it has been an active neglect.
  
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  Everything seems to be changing... why not birthdays?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if we look at all doctrines, we see an overall effort to conserve unity and control.

  - assuming most birthdays, if allowed, would probably be oriented to children, then that means 40 celebrations per year.

  so all in all, this give a total potential attendance to a birthday of 30 families (120 attendance / 4 family members).

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  LQ...are you SURE you cannot be disfellowshipped for celebrating your or your childs birthday? I would beg to differ.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses 2015 Regional Convention Saturday PM experience parents shunning children

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  clip 3 minutes long.

  ron and brenda sutton ................warwick 3 children

  it was the missed association with family that brought them back.

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  I am disgusted by these parents, and by the men manipulating this into the general conversation of the convention. Shunning comes so easy after you hear things like this slipped in a million times or so.

  My own mother will sit and listen to this shaking her head, feeling she has done something wrong, and possibly consider shunning me, when I am not even disfellowshipped.

  I suppose this puts to rest the idea that there was any reform at all coming regarding disfellowshipping.
  
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  What should I ask Richard Dawkins tonight?

  by the comet in

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  2. friends

  my amazing wife surprised me and bought tickets for us to hear richard dawkins tonight!

  he is giving a lecture with someone and then they are having a q&a session.

  anyone have any suggestions for questions i could ask?

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  I second what cappytan said. That is what i was coming here to suggest. You will need to read the quote to him and share the context. Might start an interesting conversation.
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  "The Apostle" Paul & "The governing body" He paid not attention to them

  by LAWHFol in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many witnesses view the structure of the organization, and the authority of the governing body , as a model of the first century congregation..if the governing body is, indeed structured similarly to the 12 apostles.

  paul provides a good example of how we need to view men such as these.. he admonishes christians to reject any teaching that is different from god's word gal 1:8 "but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.".

  he shows by his words that the first century leaders, meant little to him.. 2 cor 11:5 "indeed, i consider that i am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.".

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  I've been wondering something.

  Was Paul even aware at the time he wrote his letters to congregations and his brethren, that his letters were going to be part of some cannonized holy scripture in the future? It doesn't seem like it does it? No prophetic statements really, just management of the primitive Christians.

  What reason is there for Pauls letters to be deemed as somehow coming from God, rather than just a (maybe) historical narrative of the early congregation?
  
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  having a dark night of the soul

  by Miss Behaving in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm writing this here because i need someone to talk to, and you're the only folks i know who will understand.

  most of the time i think i'm a pretty happy and together person, but lately, i'll see something that reminds me of my family and i'll spontaneously start crying.

  i miss them so much and my heart keeps breaking, and even though i have kind people i work and volunteer with, i feel so incredibly lonely sometimes.

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  I'm sorry you are feeling the way you do. I don't know much about your story but it appears you are DF'd? Its a shame that policy continues to isolate people from their families....the people that should have the MOST unconditional love for you in the world.

  Its not your fault, and even to some degree not theirs. they are captive to a concept. You have awoken with the blue pill,a nd the world is not as you saw it previously. Not easy. Not easy for anyone. There is no magic bullet to fix those feelings. Everyone is different. But think about what you love to do, and do more of it! Make an impact if you feel that is what is missing from your life.
  
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  2015 convention releases

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases-2015/.

  stephen lett speaks again in the beginning of the movie ... please smb make him shut up and go hide himself.

  can they not see how ridiculous he is?.

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  How do they keep letting this guy speak publicly? Hes like a walking caricature of a religion leader to be careful of.
  
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  How many of you think.......

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ..that the governing body are only in it for money and power?.

  how many of you think the gb are all/some are sincere?.

  okay, i know this has been asked before but i can't find the thread and there are newbies here.....and i like the sound of my own voice.

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  I guess I am in the minority here. I think they are true believers. Deluded, but generally sincere. With everything they do through the lenses they and we were all raised in, they can justify almost anything.....and do.

  While I'm sure the attention doesn't hurt, I wouldn't trade places with them. Its not like they can just pull our a few hundo grand when they feel like it and go to vegas.